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for example, president obama talked about doctors that order reduplicate testing. i have seen that with my own husband with thousands of dollars in the copays for similar tests they could have appeared together and gotten the results. for example gov. romney talked about states. what happens when seniors relocate which they often do when they retire. well that eliminate them? would they have to reapply with the state? there is just so much there without somebody really spelling that out and showing seniors and talking on their level on how this impacts them. the debate did not help in that regard. thank you. >> thank you for making your comment. bird clip.d the bi birg what gov. romney said. >> there are three ways you can cut the deficit. one is to raise taxes. no. two is to cut spending. number three is to grow the economy. if more people work, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes. the problem is that it slows down the rate of growth. you can never quite get the job done. i want to lower spending an
for example, president obama talked about doctors that order reduplicate testing. i have seen that with my own husband with thousands of dollars in the copays for similar tests they could have appeared together and gotten the results. for example gov. romney talked about states. what happens when seniors relocate which they often do when they retire. well that eliminate them? would they have to reapply with the state? there is just so much there without somebody really spelling that out and...
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that, of course, then senator barack obama talking on the fifth of june. in 2007, that video obviously very, very well documented. the current president's view before a mostly black audience of ministers that the country just doesn't care as much about our black citizens as we do other citizens, specifically knew well as residents. what i wanted to do tonight is but a few facts forward. get into the issue of all of the nonsense in. but faugh precisely what the aue said, and you decide why he chose to leave information out, why he did not tell them a number of things, why he did not tell them, for example, that less than two weeks before he gave that speech on the fifth of june that he, in fact, had not voted to rave the stafford act in question. on the 24th of may of that same year he voted against the waiver. which would, of course, have permitted no responsibility on the part of state and local governments to provide one out of every $10, as he was telling that audience. that vote, by the way, in the united states senate was 80-14. under the 14 but the n
that, of course, then senator barack obama talking on the fifth of june. in 2007, that video obviously very, very well documented. the current president's view before a mostly black audience of ministers that the country just doesn't care as much about our black citizens as we do other citizens, specifically knew well as residents. what i wanted to do tonight is but a few facts forward. get into the issue of all of the nonsense in. but faugh precisely what the aue said, and you decide why he...
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i think romney did a really fabulous job and trying to get obama to talk about that, but he did not. >> that you are the independent which both campaigns were centering on the day. have you made a decision? >> yes, definitely. >> who is going to be? >> i watched it live and then i rerun.d a refun i am even more sure now that i was before it went on live at 9:00. backs who are you going to vote for? >> romney is not going to continue to kill our economy. he is not going to continue to kill jobs. he will not continue to throw money at green jobs like solyndra and all that. obama did not answer that question either, did he? >> in about seven minutes or so we will show the debate again. you may have to go to bed by then. we invite you to go to our debate hub. you can see portions of it tailored to each section. a lot of media is looking in analyzing what was said between the two men tonight. here is a labette of the dialogue that took place tonight. -- a little bit of the dialogue that took place tonight. >> it did not mention all the key points of the campaign. there was no bobby kenned
i think romney did a really fabulous job and trying to get obama to talk about that, but he did not. >> that you are the independent which both campaigns were centering on the day. have you made a decision? >> yes, definitely. >> who is going to be? >> i watched it live and then i rerun.d a refun i am even more sure now that i was before it went on live at 9:00. backs who are you going to vote for? >> romney is not going to continue to kill our economy. he is not...
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. >> obama: let me talk specifically about what i think we need to do. first we have got to improve our education system. and we have made enormous progress drawing on ideas both from democrats and republicans. that are already starting to show gains in some of the toughest to deal with schools. we have a program called race to the top that has prompted reforms in 46 states around the country, raising standards in how the train teachers. i want to hire another 100,000 math and science teachers. and i want to make sure that we keep tuition low for our young people. when it comes to our tax code governor romney and i both agree our corporation tax rate is too high. so i want to lower it particularly for manufacturing. but i also want to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies shipping jobs overseas. i want to provide tax breaks for companies investing here in the united states. on energy governor romney and i both agree that we have got to boost american energy production and oil and natural gas production are higher than they have b
. >> obama: let me talk specifically about what i think we need to do. first we have got to improve our education system. and we have made enormous progress drawing on ideas both from democrats and republicans. that are already starting to show gains in some of the toughest to deal with schools. we have a program called race to the top that has prompted reforms in 46 states around the country, raising standards in how the train teachers. i want to hire another 100,000 math and science...
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after months of talking about each other, president obama and mitt romney talked directly to one another meeting on stage for the first time for their first debate. mitt romney and president obama speaking about their plans to fix the nation's economy. >> governor romney has a perspective that says, if we cut taxes, skew towards the wealthy and roll back regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. >> i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do is i bring down the tax rates. >> reporter: the republican nominee revealing his plan to reduce the deficit. >> what things would i cut from spending? >> i will eliminate all program by this test if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it is worth borrowing money from china? if it's not, i'll get rid of it. >> governor romney rote what we did in massachusetts could be a model for the nation. >> as president, i will sit down on day one, the day after i get elected, i'll sit down with democratic leaders. >> he will also repeal obamacare on the first day which will not be very popular among democrat
after months of talking about each other, president obama and mitt romney talked directly to one another meeting on stage for the first time for their first debate. mitt romney and president obama speaking about their plans to fix the nation's economy. >> governor romney has a perspective that says, if we cut taxes, skew towards the wealthy and roll back regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. >> i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i...
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you talk to obama aides about this, they believe the president did score points on medicare. and that i know both david plum and jim messina told me what mitt romney said about medicare is not going to play well with the undecided voter in florida. or ohio in z.this is a about getting 270 vets so i will look for them to push hard to suggest mitt romney is hiding what his plan or was, has a plan for medicare pushing it into those swing states. they don't believe they lost tonight in those states. >> and we're talking about medicare issue. you have a different thought. >> i thought this is one of the best moments for governor romney. if we had had this conversation six months ago i would have said to you on the night of the first presidential debate of the general election the republican would plead with the moderator to go back to entitlement reform there. is a moment he wanted to move it on and mitt romney stopped twice and said can bego back to medicare? that is suggesting mitt romney came into the debate prepared to be aggressive and bold laid out a plan, corrected the pres
you talk to obama aides about this, they believe the president did score points on medicare. and that i know both david plum and jim messina told me what mitt romney said about medicare is not going to play well with the undecided voter in florida. or ohio in z.this is a about getting 270 vets so i will look for them to push hard to suggest mitt romney is hiding what his plan or was, has a plan for medicare pushing it into those swing states. they don't believe they lost tonight in those...
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can't get rid of obama care until you get rid of obama. he needs to talk about that. he has largely given obama a buy on that. >> that's because obama is going to say you were the model for obama care in massachusetts. then you are going to get back into this you did this, no i didn't. yes and. no. >> no, you are not. the big thing about obama care is that it sets up a board that tells the elderly what treatment they request get he in their number of years remaining. no, you can't get a heart transplant. you can't get a knee replacement. >> unless you buy it on your own. is that different from massachusetts. >> yeah. there is nothing like that in massachusetts. >> bill: got to point out two things. one is not enough. look, this separates me from what i did and my people up there is what you did. you have a fascist death board. would you call it that? a fascist death board? >> a board of 15 unelected democrats. >> bill: who is going to kill granny if they don't think it's worth it to keep her aleifer. >> i have one fact for you. >> bill: you dodged my question. would y
can't get rid of obama care until you get rid of obama. he needs to talk about that. he has largely given obama a buy on that. >> that's because obama is going to say you were the model for obama care in massachusetts. then you are going to get back into this you did this, no i didn't. yes and. no. >> no, you are not. the big thing about obama care is that it sets up a board that tells the elderly what treatment they request get he in their number of years remaining. no, you can't...
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romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans are buried. they are being crushed. their income has come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself. call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. at the same time, gasoline prices doubled. electric rates are up, food prices are up. health care costs have gone up by $2500 a family. middle income families are being crushed. the question
romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the...
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. >> in the spin room last night, and on the morning talk show circuit today, the obama camp was pushing a much different narrative, claiming mitt romney only won through rehearsed lines and lies. >> he may win the oscar for his performance, but he's not going to win the presidency for his performance last night. >> something that i think clint eastwood would be proud of. but on substance, his positions were just as empty as the chair that mr. eastwood had on stage. >> obama voters at this rally in denver did not completely agree, telling us while they will still support the president, they think romney scored with more than just style. >> i think he's out there and did he show some gravitas. i hope this will take us to the policy discussions. >> i think romney gave a good forceful discussion of the views that he interprets them, but i don't believe he was honest. >> in the debate, the president repeatedly failed to counter punch, missing opportunities to bring up romney's tax returns and offshore accounts when he pushed back on a charge about tax credits for jobs being shipped overseas.
. >> in the spin room last night, and on the morning talk show circuit today, the obama camp was pushing a much different narrative, claiming mitt romney only won through rehearsed lines and lies. >> he may win the oscar for his performance, but he's not going to win the presidency for his performance last night. >> something that i think clint eastwood would be proud of. but on substance, his positions were just as empty as the chair that mr. eastwood had on stage. >>...
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here is president obama talking about taxes. [video clip] >> to do this we have to close the deficit. how do we deal with the tax code? how do we have enough revenue to make those investments? we have a difference. mitt romney calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. that is $8 trillion. how do we pay for that without dumping those costs on middle class americans is essential theme to this campaign. host: how are you doing? caller: good. a lot of things that were brought up was that mitt romney is a businessman and he would know what he's doing. people think about popularity and not logic and do not realize that being a businessman, what is he going to do? people fail to realize when obama got into office, there were over eight years of damaged the bush administration had done. how do you expect eight years of damage to be cured in four years? nobody brought up anything about intotion and didn't get doubt about health care. host: they talked quite a bit about public education. caller: the current situation with student loans and those i
here is president obama talking about taxes. [video clip] >> to do this we have to close the deficit. how do we deal with the tax code? how do we have enough revenue to make those investments? we have a difference. mitt romney calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. that is $8 trillion. how do we pay for that without dumping those costs on middle class americans is essential theme to this campaign. host: how are you doing? caller: good. a lot of things that were brought up was that mitt romney...
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i think it's clear, barack obama pretty uncomfortable talking about taxes, the budget, jobs, the most important things in america. that's what he's uncomfortable about. he doesn't understand the american free enterprise system, how it works, number two, probably doesn't believe it in the way mitt romney believes in it. and has a terrible record. look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buried as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida. >> he acknowledges for current beneficiaries, people on it now or about to retire will have the exact same medicare they've always had. he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the government. it will ma
i think it's clear, barack obama pretty uncomfortable talking about taxes, the budget, jobs, the most important things in america. that's what he's uncomfortable about. he doesn't understand the american free enterprise system, how it works, number two, probably doesn't believe it in the way mitt romney believes in it. and has a terrible record. look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buried as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he...
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people are putting out, they're wrong on it. >> i'm not talking about what the obama people are talking. first of all, those are not six or seven independent studies, one is an editorial, these are not nonpartisan groups. >> the heritage foundation, aei? >> those are not nonpartisan independent studies. hardly. >> there is nonpartisan and independent as the tax policy people are. >> when did -- when did the governor first come out with saying that he would cap the deductions? this week? in a local interview? >> no, no, no. he has said what we will do is deal with the deductions that are there that when taken have reduced the capacity of the government to get revenue. and we will compensate for our reduction in the rate of 20% particularly for the middle class by addressing those deductions. in some case removing them, and in some cases means testing them. means -- one form of means testing is to put a cap on it. >> governor, he has not been specific about which deductions. is it the mortgage tax deduction? >> absolutely not. he shouldn't be. >> why shouldn't he be? >> why shouldn't he t
people are putting out, they're wrong on it. >> i'm not talking about what the obama people are talking. first of all, those are not six or seven independent studies, one is an editorial, these are not nonpartisan groups. >> the heritage foundation, aei? >> those are not nonpartisan independent studies. hardly. >> there is nonpartisan and independent as the tax policy people are. >> when did -- when did the governor first come out with saying that he would cap the...
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he was very reassuring and he managed to hone in on the errors the obama campaign has been talking about to do with the middle class. and he tried to reclaim the middle class debate as his own. the fact of the expectation so low that he was in some ways the underdog really played to his advantage. it will be quite interesting to see what happens the next debate when it will be obama who will be the underdog instead. >> there were times when the president made a point, all there was sometimes a little me andering to get there. let me play one of those examples. >> i've got to tell you, governor romney, when it comes to his own party during the course of this campaign, has not displayed that willingness to say no to some more extreme parts of his party. >> that, nick, was one of the tougher times that he actually made a point to mitt romney directly. >> much of the time when president obama made points, it was done in a very professorial way. this clearly is a huge exaggeration on the part of romney. president obama could have made the part of him walking away from paul ryan's own plan on
he was very reassuring and he managed to hone in on the errors the obama campaign has been talking about to do with the middle class. and he tried to reclaim the middle class debate as his own. the fact of the expectation so low that he was in some ways the underdog really played to his advantage. it will be quite interesting to see what happens the next debate when it will be obama who will be the underdog instead. >> there were times when the president made a point, all there was...
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the people you are talking to are not this thin that room. they are the people are you talking to. >> is that the kind of tough love speech you would give before they go out? by the way, you made me really nervous. i'm now nervous based on your speech. >> it's nerve-wracking, and i'll tell you one thing. obamas are not thinking about their anniversary right now. i can guarantee you that. last thing on their mind. >> that's why we do this primitive thing. we put them in the arena and make them go at each other this is a contest that could be a thousand years old. this is the land of opportunity. this is what's next. that's why reagan was successful, fdr was successful. we don't want a leader who doesn't know where we are all going. >> absolutely. >> obamas went 2 1/2 hours, and it was a senate race. >> or more. >> no commercial breaks. debate is an hour and a half. our coverage continues afterward. let's go to candy in the debate hall. wolf, to you. >> anderson, thanks very much. i want to remind our viewers, at the bottom of the screen, squig
the people you are talking to are not this thin that room. they are the people are you talking to. >> is that the kind of tough love speech you would give before they go out? by the way, you made me really nervous. i'm now nervous based on your speech. >> it's nerve-wracking, and i'll tell you one thing. obamas are not thinking about their anniversary right now. i can guarantee you that. last thing on their mind. >> that's why we do this primitive thing. we put them in the...
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obama referenced his grandmother during the debate while talking about medicare and social security. sin thee i can't soledad, kitchen aid senior director of marketing later posted from the company's account, apologizing to the prsident. she said the tweet was "carelessly sent in error by a member of our twitter team who, needless to say, won't be tweeting for us any more." >>> a voter watchdog group says it has uncovered voter fraud in maryland. the group election integrity maryland claims it found evidence that some people registered to vote using the names of dead people or registered to vote twice in two different states. the group is not accusing the state board of elections of fraud, but says the problem does need to be corrected. state elections officials say if fraud is found, the information will be given to the state prosecutor's office. >>> making headlines this morning, a rare form of meningitis has health officials concerned. already sickening dozens and killing two people in maryland and virginia. the cdc says patients contracted the infection after receiving steroid in
obama referenced his grandmother during the debate while talking about medicare and social security. sin thee i can't soledad, kitchen aid senior director of marketing later posted from the company's account, apologizing to the prsident. she said the tweet was "carelessly sent in error by a member of our twitter team who, needless to say, won't be tweeting for us any more." >>> a voter watchdog group says it has uncovered voter fraud in maryland. the group election integrity...
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you'll see the walk differ from the talk. medicare, it is true there but proposing the same changes. again, a sign that things are not really differ between these two corporate-sponsored candidates. they're both proposing about $700 billion in medicare cuts. for social security, we simply need to raise the cap on it. it will be perfectly solvent when the rich are paying their fair share. one thing we can do for medicare right now is to fix so it is still under a boondoggle, a giveaway for pharmaceutical companies and to allow bargaining in negotiation to bring down the cost for the >> rocky anderson, two minutes. >> the solution to medicare is to provide medicare for everybody. to make it a single payer system. if you look around the world -- canada, tie 1 -- tie 1 looked at all other nations systems and incorporated the best elements. that a single payer, basically, medicare for all system. we are paying more than double the average of the rest of the industrialized world per-capita for our health care costs. a large part of
you'll see the walk differ from the talk. medicare, it is true there but proposing the same changes. again, a sign that things are not really differ between these two corporate-sponsored candidates. they're both proposing about $700 billion in medicare cuts. for social security, we simply need to raise the cap on it. it will be perfectly solvent when the rich are paying their fair share. one thing we can do for medicare right now is to fix so it is still under a boondoggle, a giveaway for...
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obama: let me talk specifically about what i think we need to do. first, we've got to improve our education system, and we've made enormous progress drawing on ideas both from democrats and republicans that are already starting to show gains in some of the toughest to deal with schools. we've got a program called race to the top that has prompted reforms in 46 states around the country, raising standards, improving how we train teachers. so now i want to hire another 100,000 new math and science teachers and create two million more slots in our community colleges so people can get trained for the jobs that are out there right now. and i want to make sure we keep tuition low for our young people. when it comes to our tax code, governor romney and i both agree or corporate tax rate is too high, so i want to lower it -- particularly for manufacturing, taking it down 25% -- but i also want to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies shipping jobs overseas. i want to provide tax breaks for those investing here in the united states.
obama: let me talk specifically about what i think we need to do. first, we've got to improve our education system, and we've made enormous progress drawing on ideas both from democrats and republicans that are already starting to show gains in some of the toughest to deal with schools. we've got a program called race to the top that has prompted reforms in 46 states around the country, raising standards, improving how we train teachers. so now i want to hire another 100,000 new math and...
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obama's case, held the office over these last four years, they have talked a lot about each other. but they have not faced each other, man to man, person to person, face to face, on the same stage, as far as i can tell, in eight years. the last time i have a record of them being on the same stage together was a gridiron dinner in 2004 in washington, d.c. these guys have been campaigning against each other by remote for quite some time. seeing them face to face tonight is going to be remarkable. chris, in terms of the way that these guys are doing their last-minute preparations, is the last-minute stuff that they're doing fact or is the last-minute stuff they're doing psychological? >> well, you know, bobby kennedy said to jack kennedy on the way out the door to debate dick nixon, kick him in the balls. you know? sometimes it's just something like that, something like that. that's history, not me talking. and sometimes it's just that kind of sense of, go get 'em! and that can be the thing you need. nixon's guy, on the other hand, said to him, "erase the assassin's image." that was a
obama's case, held the office over these last four years, they have talked a lot about each other. but they have not faced each other, man to man, person to person, face to face, on the same stage, as far as i can tell, in eight years. the last time i have a record of them being on the same stage together was a gridiron dinner in 2004 in washington, d.c. these guys have been campaigning against each other by remote for quite some time. seeing them face to face tonight is going to be remarkable....
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>> reporter: i talked to top officials from both campaigns today, and it seems clear there will be two battles. one over the state of the economy, right now, obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress, but he is going to ask for more time to finish the job. the romney camp says that this is where their guy is going to be very tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years. he will say, barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008. he hasn't kept those promises. they don't worry about their guy being likeable. they say the key is to day on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years, that's where obam will be tough on romney saying he wants to give tax cuts to the wealthy and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. one thing both sides say this, could get heated tonight. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs, moderating this debate. >> jim: i'm jim lehrer. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor
>> reporter: i talked to top officials from both campaigns today, and it seems clear there will be two battles. one over the state of the economy, right now, obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress, but he is going to ask for more time to finish the job. the romney camp says that this is where their guy is going to be very tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years. he will say, barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008. he hasn't kept those...
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i talks to the voters, obama fan s, several of them think romney won because of his gravitas. listen to david axelrod on a conference call today. >> he may win the oscar for the performance but he will not win the presidency if his performance last night. >> you see the mountains behind me, a democrat was at the rally and he climbs the mountains and said he sees it this way: some days everyone is working together when you climbing. other days someone has to cut the rope. it is stormy. this is one of those days. but he thinks it will pass for the president. >>trace: we will see, ed henry. now to the national political reporter for www.realclearpolitics.com. erin, you heard ed, that president obama lost the debate but now the excuses are rolling in. al gore says, no, no, no, he lost because of the altitude in denver, 5,000', and the obama campaign saying it is because mitt romney wasn't honest. they are having a tough time trying to spin out of this. >>guest: they are. another thing that we heard david axelrod say this morning is that the president didn't want to have two candid
i talks to the voters, obama fan s, several of them think romney won because of his gravitas. listen to david axelrod on a conference call today. >> he may win the oscar for the performance but he will not win the presidency if his performance last night. >> you see the mountains behind me, a democrat was at the rally and he climbs the mountains and said he sees it this way: some days everyone is working together when you climbing. other days someone has to cut the rope. it is...
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so you liked what obama was talking about? >> yes, referring to the middle class and education and how that's going to help. >> so you thought on the substance you preferred obama? >> yes. >> now, the other thing, chris, we can tell you is that nobody here is willing to commit. anybody want to commit? raise their hand and say, i'll vote for one or the other fwhooir no? why not? juan, you said believability. you had a lot of problems believing both of them? >> i tend to approach it that way. like who's lying to me last. going back and punching out the numbers and trying to get a feel. >> so this was really an uplifting experience for you? >> yes. >> i think chris has some questions, chris, are you there? >> let me be tough on the groupnd play hard ball with the group. aisle be different. what do you read? what newspapers do you read? how do you keep up with the news and you're still undecided. most people reed newspapers and watch news shows and sort of form an opinion over time. it's been four years with obama. how many years
so you liked what obama was talking about? >> yes, referring to the middle class and education and how that's going to help. >> so you thought on the substance you preferred obama? >> yes. >> now, the other thing, chris, we can tell you is that nobody here is willing to commit. anybody want to commit? raise their hand and say, i'll vote for one or the other fwhooir no? why not? juan, you said believability. you had a lot of problems believing both of them? >> i...
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the visuals, talking to a lot of people in mike's profession. in any debate turn the sound off and just look at the visuals what you're seeing. president obama staring down, not making eye contact with governor romney nor the audience. that visual cue it's almost accepting the other guy's making a point you need to deal with as opposed to forcefully kind of staring them down in a pose of reputation. you never saw that with president obama tonight. i thought it was a curiously passive performance, and there's a lot of things that mitt romney said tonight that he's never said before. he said i'm not, there's going to be no fax cuts for upper income earners. no cuts to medicare. those are positions we've not heard from governor romney before. he said a lot of specific things in this debate. he's been criticized for not having specifics. some of the specifics were easily challengeable by the president. the president didn't challenge him on the specifics in any way. and again, i think that's, speaks to him playing it very safe. that four corners offe
the visuals, talking to a lot of people in mike's profession. in any debate turn the sound off and just look at the visuals what you're seeing. president obama staring down, not making eye contact with governor romney nor the audience. that visual cue it's almost accepting the other guy's making a point you need to deal with as opposed to forcefully kind of staring them down in a pose of reputation. you never saw that with president obama tonight. i thought it was a curiously passive...
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look at what we're talking about today and essentially we're talking about obama's plan. we're talking about his campaign messaging, and we're talking about all the ways in which mitt romney has been lying. that's pretty much across the board. so score one for the campaign if they lost some cool points in terms of obama's persona in the debate itself. >> karen, there's been this hand wringing by some democrats over this perceived low performance by the president, but was it really such a fiasco? mitt romney is the ron jeremy of political campaigning. every day he's in a different position. how do you nail custard to the creeling? how do you do that? i don't know how you do that. >> exactly, yeah. >> look, can i just remind you that al gore won the debates. did he end up being president? no, he did not. >> john kerry. >> john kerry won the debates. he also did not end up being president. >> yeah, but, karen, i think what's different this time around is the absolute falsification that took place last night. it was breath-taking. it was almost -- well, it was shakespearean i
look at what we're talking about today and essentially we're talking about obama's plan. we're talking about his campaign messaging, and we're talking about all the ways in which mitt romney has been lying. that's pretty much across the board. so score one for the campaign if they lost some cool points in terms of obama's persona in the debate itself. >> karen, there's been this hand wringing by some democrats over this perceived low performance by the president, but was it really such a...